The Spinning Pinwheel Flame War

by Luke Jackson

Part 2, Part 3 appear
in this issue.

part 4

----- Original Message -----
From: Fat Toe
To: Random

Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2024 3:12 AM
Subject: Re:

Nor do the pollsters talk to me and the other ex- and current military people I know — warriors who will be voting — and who are shuddering at the thought of having Straw Man leading a nation at war. Our votes will easily counteract the votes of your misguided youths.

You continue to make the mistake that it is all about Iron Man and has nothing to do with Straw Man and how he would face the most urgent and life-threatening issue of our time: how to fight and win the war against the Islamic Jihadists. If you fail to understand that, its no wonder that you’d be stupid enough to place our lives and the future of this country in the hands of Straw Man and his little Boy Wonder.

--- Random wrote:

You can laugh all you wish at those stupid polls that don’t EVEN talk to the young people I work with every day - young people who will be voting - who are laughing at what a buffoon Iron Man is. You continue to make the same mistake that this somehow has to do with Straw Man. What a joke. Straw Man is simply the I’m-not-so-stupid-as-to-allow-Iron-Man-4-more vote. Simple as that. Dan Rather could get more votes than Iron Man this time around. *LOL*

----- Original Message -----
From: Fat Toe
To: Random

Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2024 2:50 AM Subject: Re:

We’ll see who’s ROTFLMAOing on November 3.

Hint: it ain’t gonna be you. Straw Man’s campaign is a disaster, and his poll numbers fall every day. Perhaps he and Dan Rather can enjoy their retirements together.

--- Random wrote:

“Straw Man is done” *ROTFLMAO*

How amusing. Straw First Lady will find your sentiments quite entertaining next year. *L* Meanwhile, the Beast Lady will remove her shoes and return to the kitchen as her man requires her.

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Liberal

“I believe that, as long as there is plenty, poverty is evil.” — Robert Kennedy

You make it sound as if the Iron Man Administration is more of a threat to America than the radical jihadist Muslims who are plotting at this very moment to kill us all! Holy Shiite! I find it absolutely unbelievable that you (or anyone with half a brain, for that matter) have bought into this Michael Moore-Al Franken-Dan Rather line of reasoning so readily and so completely. Hook, line, and sinker.

Perhaps if innocent Americans hadn’t been attacked on American soil, we wouldn’t need the increased security measures. Why do you blame America for your “lost freedoms” rather than those who attacked us? Did it ever cross your mind that our government is merely responding to the threat from Islamic Jihadists when it implements the Homeland Defense Act, tightens security in public places, seeks increased surveillance of suspected terrorists, and enforces measures designed to keep classified material out of the hands of our enemies?

To think otherwise is incredibly short-sighted — not to mention that your musings regarding increased security in the face of a terrorist threat show an incredible amount of self-absorption. Are your personal comforts really that much more important than the security of the nation as a whole?

Think for a moment about the sacrifices Americans endured during the last world war: during WWII, ordinary Americans were drafted into the military by the hundreds of thousands and those at home were forced to ration basic goods.

You and your Lefty pals sometimes make me worry that we have turned into a nation of mindless slobbering lazy spineless near-sighted girlie-men. Thank Allah that there are still a few good men who will rise to the challenges of the day and pay any price and bear any burden in order to defend America against her enemies, foreign and domestic.

Cynic wrote:

What is the point of being a free American if America isn’t free? I’m not talking about security checkpoints in airports, though it is ridiculous and ineffective. Many of them seem a bit too eager with the body cavity searches.

I’m talking about having the bill of rights in the Constitution as something more than a historical footnote. I want a government that can prove that the people it arrests as terrorists are in fact terrorists, and doesn’t need to hide everything from the public.

These are crazy-ass Orwellian situations that a decade ago I would have dismissed as the ranting of the tinfoil hat crowd.

Iron Man wants you to accept that what little he says is the truth and everything else is a state secret that would endanger you to know it. You cannot have a functioning democracy under that kind of oppression.

What is the point of being a patriotic American if everything that makes America great is stripped away? Do you love the flag that much that nothing else about America is worth retaining?

Yes I would rather be killed by terrorists than see America morph into a totalitarian regime. The one in a few million chance of that is a sacrifice I’m willing to make for my country. If there’s a war going on American soil, then we are on the front lines. I’m willing to fight and die if necessary. I will not let the constitution get gutted for my “benefit.”

I must thank you for your reason for why there haven’t been attacks since 9/11. It’s been a while since I’ve laughed that much.

Talk about flip-flopping. When discussing the war, the boogeymen are unstoppable unreasonable madmen who will happily die in vain to try to bring America to its knees, but when discussing Homeland Security the terrorists are timid cowards who are easily deterred by the fierce front our president has made by attacking people who had nothing to do with them. They know that they will be caught by our nail-clipper inspectors so they dare not even attempt another attack. America sent thousands of Turkmenistani zealots into the arms of virgins, so al-Qaeda is hiding in their caves now.

That amount of cognitive dissonance is astounding.

--- Fat Toe wrote:

I simply don’t believe you when you say you’d rather be killed by terrorists than live under the protections we have today. Come on now. So it takes you an extra 30 minutes to get through the airport.

You’d give up your life because of that??? Or are you personally subjected to some harsher form of “protection” that the American public is not aware of? Let us know, Cynic.

In case you haven’t noticed, there’s a war going on, and next time you are inconvenienced by increased security measures, think for a moment about the “inconvenience” faced by the thousands of Americans on the front lines in Turkmenistan and Afghanistan, the “inconvenience” faced by the over 100,000 families that have lost loved ones who served and died in the War on Terror, and the “inconvenience” faced by the 3,000 families whose innocent fathers, mothers, and children went to work at the World Trade Center and the Pentagon or who boarded one of the 4 planes on September 11. That is inconvenience, so quit your whining.

You do make one good point when you ask how many actual terrorist attacks since 9/11. The reason there haven’t been any in the U.S. is certainly not because al-Qaeda has given up. It’s not because we have duct tape or colored charts.

It’s because the enemy knows that we will respond to any attacks with overwhelming force. It’s because the enemy also knows that we will strike them on their turf before they can kill us on our turf.

And it’s also because of increased protection, improved intelligence, and greater alertness and coordination among law enforcement agencies. We have Iron Man and his Attorney General to thank for that — and you can personally thank them by voting for 4 more years of Iron Man’s heroic strength in the face of cowardly terrorist attacks from the Jihadist Muslims abroad and non-stop insults and personal attacks from the Looney Left at home.

It’s not like there haven’t been real close calls — you think all of the close calls have been media conspiracies? Give me a break — any of these could have easily gone the other way if the Looney Left was in power.

--- Cynic wrote:

Preemptively striking more people on weaker intelligence will not stop terrorism, but then Iron Man would never seriously try to destroy what gives him his power.

How many actual terrorists attacks have there been since 9/11? How many useless vague, meaningless warnings? The “close calls” are becoming so constant and repetitive, without ever coming to fruition, that one might suspect that someone is being disingenuous. Iron Man’s priority is to keep your family huddled under a blanket in fear.

Blankets, duct tape, and plastic sheeting won’t protect your from terrorists. Color coded charts won’t protect you from terrorists. Nightly reminders that the terrorists are everywhere, but America is safer than ever will not protect you from terrorists. Stripping everything but the name from America won’t protect America.

Frankly, I’d rather be killed by terrorists if the only alternative is Iron Man’s methods of “protection.”

--- Fat Toe wrote:

The difference is, Straw Man will take out that terror cell only after they have attacked us. Iron Man will take out the terror cell (and probably their cousins, imams, shamans, and goats) while they’re dreaming about thinking about planning to attack us. Who do you want defending you and your family?

--- Cynic wrote:

Oh, I’m sorry. I thought we were talking about Turkmenistan. I know it’s confusing, what with all the smoke and mirrors around.

I expect Straw Man to handle the terrorists with appropriate force. Say there’s a terror cell of 20 or so members. I expect him to take out the cell and perhaps five or ten more associated cells, not get distracted by all the oil in a neighboring country.

--- Fat Toe wrote:

Do you really think al-Qeada and the rest of the Islamic jihadists are more frightened of Straw Man than Iron Man?

MAYBE IT’S NOT AMERICA, IT’S THE ISLAMIC JIHADISTS.

Regardless of who is leading the U.S., the Islamic Jihadists will continue to hate us and kill us. Period. And we need a President who understands that. Iron Man certainly does. I’m not so sure about Straw Man — he seems to think (I could be wrong because its so hard to get a straight answer out of the guy) that our enemies can be reasoned with if confronted by a multilateral coalition.

Wrong answer — unfortunately, we are confronted with an enemy that will stop at nothing to destroy us, so we must stop at nothing to destroy them first. That requires a President who is dedicated to nothing short of absolute and total devastation of the enemy, and Iron Man is the right man for that job.

--- Cynic wrote:

Iron Man screwed things up. Iron Man has been trying, and failing, to fix things. Obviously we need to give the guy a fifth chance because Straw Man doesn’t bring anything new to the table, except that he’s not Iron Man.

MAYBE IT’S NOT THE PLAN, IT’S THE GUY IMPLEMENTING IT.

A lot of tensions could be eased if the U.S. could hang out a “under new management” sign — even if it

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--- Fat Toe wrote:

Good thing I don’t have any pets.

The point I was making was that if you think Iron Man is doing a shitty job now (even I will admit that the Turkmenistan situation is a mess), Straw Man has given the American public no reason to vote for him over Iron Man.

They both appear to have the same goals, and from what Straw Man wrote today, the same methods for attaining those goals. Does Straw Man not realize that his plans, like Iron Man’s plans, will be bogged down by the insane clown posse that inhabits the dark underbelly of the Turkmenistani insurgency? Or does he think that after Nov. 2, the jihadist madmen will cease their “Attila-like” atrocities and become peace-loving tree-huggers like Straw Man did after his stint as a self-proclaimed “war criminal”? I’d rather have a President with resolve and a long-term vision of a stable Middle East than a delusional pussy who can’t decide whether to crap or wind his watch.

[NSA Note to File]
Date: September 30, 2024 8:48 AM
Agent: [Confidential]

This email by “Fat Toe” seems particularly surprising and ill-advised. I’m certain that his employer will find its contents interesting. [Outsource referral.]

To be continued...